Comments on: Jindal wants carbon bucks but bucks carbon regs. http://lacoastpost.com/blog/?p=13280 Thu, 09 Sep 2010 23:22:24 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0 By: Admin http://lacoastpost.com/blog/?p=13280&cpage=1#comment-4950 Admin Tue, 03 Nov 2009 13:08:15 +0000 http://lacoastpost.com/blog/?p=13280#comment-4950 Engstfeld- If the Democrats actually succeed in passing energy legislation that ultimately reduces American CO2 emissions it will reflect the respect for science that characterizes the Obama administration. In a country in which an alarmingly high proportion of its citizens think that the sun revolves around the earth and that the 14 billion year old universe was created in six days, that will be a truly extraordinary achievement. You and your fellow Luddites should pick up a copy of R. Crumb's new illustrated depiction of the book of Genesis: http://www.amazon.com/Book-Genesis-Illustrated-R-Crumb/dp/0393061027. Engstfeld-
If the Democrats actually succeed in passing energy legislation that ultimately reduces American CO2 emissions it will reflect the respect for science that characterizes the Obama administration. In a country in which an alarmingly high proportion of its citizens think that the sun revolves around the earth and that the 14 billion year old universe was created in six days, that will be a truly extraordinary achievement.

You and your fellow Luddites should pick up a copy of R. Crumb’s new illustrated depiction of the book of Genesis: http://www.amazon.com/Book-Genesis-Illustrated-R-Crumb/dp/0393061027.

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]]> By: Engstfeld http://lacoastpost.com/blog/?p=13280&cpage=1#comment-4945 Engstfeld Mon, 02 Nov 2009 09:55:25 +0000 http://lacoastpost.com/blog/?p=13280#comment-4945 A part of me wishes the Democrats (dumbocrats?) would pass their moronic cap and trade legislation. It would lead to their utter demise, but at the expense of the nation with them. Newsweek, which has become a liberal partisan rag, is actually trying to clue in it's people. This thing is a disaster in the making, for the country and for the Democratic party which will go down in flames with it. http://www.newsweek.com/id/220523 A part of me wishes the Democrats (dumbocrats?) would pass their moronic cap and trade legislation. It would lead to their utter demise, but at the expense of the nation with them. Newsweek, which has become a liberal partisan rag, is actually trying to clue in it’s people. This thing is a disaster in the making, for the country and for the Democratic party which will go down in flames with it.

http://www.newsweek.com/id/220523

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]]> By: Don Boesch http://lacoastpost.com/blog/?p=13280&cpage=1#comment-4833 Don Boesch Sun, 11 Oct 2009 14:42:42 +0000 http://lacoastpost.com/blog/?p=13280#comment-4833 HH,after all this discourse, it's pretty clear that your mind is closed or overcome by laughing gas (another naturally occurring greenhouse gas). But, for those LaCoastPost readers who really want to understand how we know that the increase of carbon dioxide is causing global warming, here is an excellent scientific explanation http://www.skepticalscience.com/How-do-we-know-CO2-is-causing-warming.html Contrast that to the nonsense of Leighton Steward's "CO2 is Green Campaign" which argues that we need to increase CO2 concentrations by 300 ppm to fertilize crops and feed the world. For a serious analysis on the combined effects of CO2 increases accompanied by warming on U.S. agriculture see Global Climate Change Impacts in the United States www.globalchange.gov HH,after all this discourse, it’s pretty clear that your mind is closed or overcome by laughing gas (another naturally occurring greenhouse gas). But, for those LaCoastPost readers who really want to understand how we know that the increase of carbon dioxide is causing global warming, here is an excellent scientific explanation http://www.skepticalscience.com/How-do-we-know-CO2-is-causing-warming.html
Contrast that to the nonsense of Leighton Steward’s “CO2 is Green Campaign” which argues that we need to increase CO2 concentrations by 300 ppm to fertilize crops and feed the world. For a serious analysis on the combined effects of CO2 increases accompanied by warming on U.S. agriculture see Global Climate Change Impacts in the United States http://www.globalchange.gov

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]]> By: spf http://lacoastpost.com/blog/?p=13280&cpage=1#comment-4767 spf Thu, 01 Oct 2009 21:33:55 +0000 http://lacoastpost.com/blog/?p=13280#comment-4767 I'm not being "negative" just for the sake of argument, but would like us to be objective and make decisions based on sound science. This is a corollary to Don's comments about addressing "the full challenge". This is a complex problem where we don't yet fully understand the consequences of multiple and simultaneous actions, much less the risks. I see a rush to embrace carbon sequestration because it appears to be a solution which is basically pain-free to individuals and has other desirable benefits(e.g., funding coastal restoration). Very attractive. Added to this mix are special interests and the lure of large amounts of fast money in enterprises that have an unknown probability of delivering the goods over the next 50-100 years. Sorry if this is negative, but this scenario has been played out many times and I believe these are legitimate concerns. I’m not being “negative” just for the sake of argument, but would like us to be objective and make decisions based on sound science. This is a corollary to Don’s comments about addressing “the full challenge”. This is a complex problem where we don’t yet fully understand the consequences of multiple and simultaneous actions, much less the risks.

I see a rush to embrace carbon sequestration because it appears to be a solution which is basically pain-free to individuals and has other desirable benefits(e.g., funding coastal restoration). Very attractive. Added to this mix are special interests and the lure of large amounts of fast money in enterprises that have an unknown probability of delivering the goods over the next 50-100 years. Sorry if this is negative, but this scenario has been played out many times and I believe these are legitimate concerns.

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]]> By: HeidiHoe http://lacoastpost.com/blog/?p=13280&cpage=1#comment-4765 HeidiHoe Thu, 01 Oct 2009 21:13:40 +0000 http://lacoastpost.com/blog/?p=13280#comment-4765 Such is the purpose of life- to keep people laughing...... All the way to the bank...... With carbon credits..... Round and round she goes; where she stops nobody knows..... Such is the purpose of life- to keep people laughing……

All the way to the bank……

With carbon credits…..

Round and round she goes; where she stops nobody knows…..

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]]> By: spf http://lacoastpost.com/blog/?p=13280&cpage=1#comment-4764 spf Thu, 01 Oct 2009 20:27:59 +0000 http://lacoastpost.com/blog/?p=13280#comment-4764 This are the last electrons I'll waste responding to HH's logic just to put this quote in correct context: It was a reader comment added to the web site (not part of the actual article)and said reader wrote in the same comment that there is no way marshes can be submerged by rising sea level since "The rate of plant growth is fast (inches per year) while the rate of sea level rise is slow (mm per year)". Tough to argue with logic like that, lol! This are the last electrons I’ll waste responding to HH’s logic just to put this quote in correct context: It was a reader comment added to the web site (not part of the actual article)and said reader wrote in the same comment that there is no way marshes can be submerged by rising sea level since “The rate of plant growth is fast (inches per year) while the rate of sea level rise is slow (mm per year)”. Tough to argue with logic like that, lol!

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]]> By: HeidiHoe http://lacoastpost.com/blog/?p=13280&cpage=1#comment-4759 HeidiHoe Thu, 01 Oct 2009 02:47:23 +0000 http://lacoastpost.com/blog/?p=13280#comment-4759 The Baltimore Sun link above contained this quote as a comment: "This isn't great science, it isn't even good science. It's debatable whether this is science at all. It sounds like a complete waste of time and money." Sums things up pretty well...... Thanks for the link Don..... The Baltimore Sun link above contained this quote as a comment:

“This isn’t great science, it isn’t even good science. It’s debatable whether this is science at all. It sounds like a complete waste of time and money.”

Sums things up pretty well……

Thanks for the link Don…..

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]]> By: HeidiHoe http://lacoastpost.com/blog/?p=13280&cpage=1#comment-4758 HeidiHoe Thu, 01 Oct 2009 01:51:58 +0000 http://lacoastpost.com/blog/?p=13280#comment-4758 So how does this relate to "Carbon Dioxide," that is the question???? Carbon Dioxide is the debate here, not what we flush down the toilet.... So how does this relate to “Carbon Dioxide,” that is the question????

Carbon Dioxide is the debate here, not what we flush down the toilet….

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]]> By: Randy Lanctot http://lacoastpost.com/blog/?p=13280&cpage=1#comment-4757 Randy Lanctot Wed, 30 Sep 2009 21:41:04 +0000 http://lacoastpost.com/blog/?p=13280#comment-4757 Don, I agree, Louisiana's duplicity (thus far) on climate change should not be condoned. Don, I agree, Louisiana’s duplicity (thus far) on climate change should not be condoned.

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]]> By: Randy Lanctot http://lacoastpost.com/blog/?p=13280&cpage=1#comment-4756 Randy Lanctot Wed, 30 Sep 2009 21:34:11 +0000 http://lacoastpost.com/blog/?p=13280#comment-4756 Yes, the ownership and management of lands that are acquired (or should be acquired) or that are re/created by coastal restoration and protection projects is an important issue for the taxpayers, not just Louisiana taxpayers, who are footing the bill for them. That consideration should be on the table in the negotiation of every restoration & protection project, with the public's interest firmly represented. The Louisiana Wildlife Federation has advocated for a state coastal land trust or another appropriately-structured public management entity to accept and provide for the management of properties that become available through the coastal protection & restoration program. Some have advocated for a private land trust to accomplish this, though, despite the jaundiced view some may have of state managemet, public $ = public management as far as we are concerned. One vehicle to do this was adopted by the Legislature last year:http://www.legis.state.la.us/billdata/streamdocument.asp?did=503704 Yes, the ownership and management of lands that are acquired (or should be acquired) or that are re/created by coastal restoration and protection projects is an important issue for the taxpayers, not just Louisiana taxpayers, who are footing the bill for them. That consideration should be on the table in the negotiation of every restoration & protection project, with the public’s interest firmly represented. The Louisiana Wildlife Federation has advocated for a state coastal land trust or another appropriately-structured public management entity to accept and provide for the management of properties that become available through the coastal protection & restoration program. Some have advocated for a private land trust to accomplish this, though, despite the jaundiced view some may have of state managemet, public $ = public management as far as we are concerned. One vehicle to do this was adopted by the Legislature last year:http://www.legis.state.la.us/billdata/streamdocument.asp?did=503704

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