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	<title>Comments on: It&#8217;s time to consider forested levees</title>
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		<title>By: dan kroes</title>
		<link>http://lacoastpost.com/blog/?p=16922&#038;cpage=1#comment-6031</link>
		<dc:creator>dan kroes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jan 2010 18:53:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>perhaps the problem lies in the unconditional protection that people have somehow come to expect from levees.  Of course all of us know that levees will always fail or be overtopped, but somehow we keep expecting them to thwart everything that comes along, and then sue when they don&#039;t.  Which is why the coastal levees the Corps propose are 100+ billion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>perhaps the problem lies in the unconditional protection that people have somehow come to expect from levees.  Of course all of us know that levees will always fail or be overtopped, but somehow we keep expecting them to thwart everything that comes along, and then sue when they don&#8217;t.  Which is why the coastal levees the Corps propose are 100+ billion.</p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 22:25:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Forested ridges (&lt;em&gt;Chenieres faux&lt;/em&gt;) is not an appropriate concept for lining outfall canals but it would seem worth considering for the south shore of Lake Pontchartrain, where space is not limiting and where dense plantings of live oaks would make a beautiful and functional addition to what is now a long unshaded grassy knoll.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Forested ridges (<em>Chenieres faux</em>) is not an appropriate concept for lining outfall canals but it would seem worth considering for the south shore of Lake Pontchartrain, where space is not limiting and where dense plantings of live oaks would make a beautiful and functional addition to what is now a long unshaded grassy knoll.</p>
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		<title>By: HeidiHoe</title>
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		<dc:creator>HeidiHoe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 15:54:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How would these be constructed along the Outfall Canals; with limited space available??

I believe the Independent Levee Investigation Team has some thoughts on this subject also:

http://www.ce.berkeley.edu/projects/neworleans/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How would these be constructed along the Outfall Canals; with limited space available??</p>
<p>I believe the Independent Levee Investigation Team has some thoughts on this subject also:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.ce.berkeley.edu/projects/neworleans/" rel="nofollow">http://www.ce.berkeley.edu/projects/neworleans/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Live Oak Levees in Louisiana « Quinta Scott’s Weblog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Live Oak Levees in Louisiana « Quinta Scott’s Weblog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 21:22:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Bahr at LaCoastPost has an superb posting on growing live oak trees on levees to hold the soil together and present a [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Bahr at LaCoastPost has an superb posting on growing live oak trees on levees to hold the soil together and present a [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Don Blancher</title>
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		<dc:creator>Don Blancher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Dec 2009 23:46:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Len,

Great post.  Likely that the COE  believes trees are a threat to levels rather than a help.  Looking forward to info on the Sacramento Report.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Len,</p>
<p>Great post.  Likely that the COE  believes trees are a threat to levels rather than a help.  Looking forward to info on the Sacramento Report.</p>
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		<title>By: Walt Sikora</title>
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		<dc:creator>Walt Sikora</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Dec 2009 03:23:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Len,

Good post.  One problem though is salt tolerance and rate of growth.  Our native live oaks are somewhat salt tolerant but slow growing above ground, and I don&#039;t know how deep and how fast their root systems develop.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Len,</p>
<p>Good post.  One problem though is salt tolerance and rate of growth.  Our native live oaks are somewhat salt tolerant but slow growing above ground, and I don&#8217;t know how deep and how fast their root systems develop.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 23:42:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Len:
Try the Mac compatible files from the cerp.lsu.edu</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Len:<br />
Try the Mac compatible files from the cerp.lsu.edu</p>
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		<title>By: Len Bahr</title>
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		<dc:creator>Len Bahr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 16:00:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anonymous-
I appreciate the connection to the two videos. Unfortunately the format isn&#039;t compatible with the Quicktime software on my laptop so I can&#039;t open them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anonymous-<br />
I appreciate the connection to the two videos. Unfortunately the format isn&#8217;t compatible with the Quicktime software on my laptop so I can&#8217;t open them.</p>
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		<title>By: Carlton Dufrechou</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carlton Dufrechou</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 03:25:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Len,

Another great post.  Your forested levees are another term for replication of natural ridges along our coast as recommended in the Multiple Lines of Defense Strategy.  Levees alone are a temporary fix a best.  Without reestablishing some semblance of a self sustaining coast (and its natural features that reduce storm surge), metro New Orleans, Houma, and many of our coastal communities will become more and more at risk.

Keep doing good.

Carlton</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Len,</p>
<p>Another great post.  Your forested levees are another term for replication of natural ridges along our coast as recommended in the Multiple Lines of Defense Strategy.  Levees alone are a temporary fix a best.  Without reestablishing some semblance of a self sustaining coast (and its natural features that reduce storm surge), metro New Orleans, Houma, and many of our coastal communities will become more and more at risk.</p>
<p>Keep doing good.</p>
<p>Carlton</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 00:22:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please see some movies about this method and a MRGO closure plan at  
http://cerp.lsu.edu/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please see some movies about this method and a MRGO closure plan at<br />
<a href="http://cerp.lsu.edu/" rel="nofollow">http://cerp.lsu.edu/</a></p>
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