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		<title>By: Len</title>
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		<dc:creator>Len</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 14:21:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don-
I was not alluding to you when I criticized those who for years have successfully lobbied to keep gulf hypoxia separate from ecosystem restoration.  For exampe, despite repeated comments from Doug Daigle, me and a few others, the state master plan was in final draft before there was a begrudging agreement to insert a little paragraph on reducing nutrient conentrations in river water.  Lip service is better than silence, I suppose.</description>
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I was not alluding to you when I criticized those who for years have successfully lobbied to keep gulf hypoxia separate from ecosystem restoration.  For exampe, despite repeated comments from Doug Daigle, me and a few others, the state master plan was in final draft before there was a begrudging agreement to insert a little paragraph on reducing nutrient conentrations in river water.  Lip service is better than silence, I suppose.</p>
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		<title>By: Don Boesch</title>
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		<dc:creator>Don Boesch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 23:33:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike, eutrophication is the process of increasing the loading of an aquatic ecosystem with organic matter.  Frequently, this results from adding more nutrients (forms of nitrogen and phosphorus), which stimulates the growth of phytoplankton.  Some of this increased growth sinks toward the bottom where bacteria degrade it and consume dissolved oxygen in the process.  Where water column has strong density stratification (fresher and warmer water near the surface over saltier and colder water below) the oxygen supply can&#039;t be replenished fast enough and concentrations fall too low to allow active animals like fish and shrimp to live there very long--that&#039;s hypoxia.  

Len, as you know I have been preaching for years that the solutions for coastal restoration and hypoxia abatement must be integrated in an ecosystem-based management context because both problems are part and parcel of the disruption of the Mississippi River system.  See http://www.umces.edu/president/EBM%20CB-LA.pdf.  In particular, it will be necessary to significantly reduce nutrient pollution of the river so that restoration of the Mississippi and Atchafalaya deltas can proceed while minimizing collateral impacts on water quality and ecosystem health.  As Garret Graves, chairman of the Louisiana Coastal Protection and Restoration Authority, told the Gulf Hypoxia Task Force:  “The Mississippi River built almost all of South Louisiana.  We will rely upon it to help us rebuild what has washed away over the last century.  The river must be healthy in order for us to succeed.”</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike, eutrophication is the process of increasing the loading of an aquatic ecosystem with organic matter.  Frequently, this results from adding more nutrients (forms of nitrogen and phosphorus), which stimulates the growth of phytoplankton.  Some of this increased growth sinks toward the bottom where bacteria degrade it and consume dissolved oxygen in the process.  Where water column has strong density stratification (fresher and warmer water near the surface over saltier and colder water below) the oxygen supply can&#8217;t be replenished fast enough and concentrations fall too low to allow active animals like fish and shrimp to live there very long&#8211;that&#8217;s hypoxia.  </p>
<p>Len, as you know I have been preaching for years that the solutions for coastal restoration and hypoxia abatement must be integrated in an ecosystem-based management context because both problems are part and parcel of the disruption of the Mississippi River system.  See <a href="http://www.umces.edu/president/EBM%20CB-LA.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.umces.edu/president/EBM%20CB-LA.pdf</a>.  In particular, it will be necessary to significantly reduce nutrient pollution of the river so that restoration of the Mississippi and Atchafalaya deltas can proceed while minimizing collateral impacts on water quality and ecosystem health.  As Garret Graves, chairman of the Louisiana Coastal Protection and Restoration Authority, told the Gulf Hypoxia Task Force:  “The Mississippi River built almost all of South Louisiana.  We will rely upon it to help us rebuild what has washed away over the last century.  The river must be healthy in order for us to succeed.”</p>
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		<title>By: Len</title>
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		<dc:creator>Len</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 20:50:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At the risk of further muddying the water, so to speak, let me provide some observations after representing Louisiana on the national hypoxia task force for about a decade, while being intimately involved in ecosystem restoration..  
1) hypoxia has become a serious problem in the northern gulf and in other deltas around the world, even though fisheries data remain inconclusive and no smoking gun has been demonstrated in terms of an imminent collapse;
2) the extent of the summer hypoxic zone in the gulf has expanded in parallel with increases in agricultural nitrogen, related to corn production in the midwest;
3) the Bush administration was derelict for eight years by never funding even modest action to reduce nutrient runoff within the Miss. R. watershed;
4) many participants in the gulf hypoxia issue have ignored the breakup of the Louisiana delta and/or denied any connection between that issue and hypoxia;
5) conversely, many participants in Louisiana&#039;s coastal restoration program have dismissed the reduction of eutrophicatio and hypoxia as goals complementary to and compatible with ecosystem restoration;
6) as a result of 4 and 5 integrated and comprehensive solutions to both challenges are rarely discussed, e.g., a brand new report on wetland loss in the eastern US by NOAA and FWS is a perfect example of treating problems in a vacuum, stovepiping technical issues and ignoring connections.

Finally I think there are several basic and critical science questions that need resolution so as to assure the public that our science is credible and that we can reasonaby predict the outcome of the expenditure of billions of public dollars.  These questions include: (1) what would be the outcome of releasing all the flow of the Mississippi-Atchafalaya river system within the shallow estuarine zone; (2) how rapidly is subsidence occurring and where and why; and (3) how much sediment would be needed to restore Louisiana&#039;s inundated landscape to some sustainable level and are there sufficient sources available.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At the risk of further muddying the water, so to speak, let me provide some observations after representing Louisiana on the national hypoxia task force for about a decade, while being intimately involved in ecosystem restoration..<br />
1) hypoxia has become a serious problem in the northern gulf and in other deltas around the world, even though fisheries data remain inconclusive and no smoking gun has been demonstrated in terms of an imminent collapse;<br />
2) the extent of the summer hypoxic zone in the gulf has expanded in parallel with increases in agricultural nitrogen, related to corn production in the midwest;<br />
3) the Bush administration was derelict for eight years by never funding even modest action to reduce nutrient runoff within the Miss. R. watershed;<br />
4) many participants in the gulf hypoxia issue have ignored the breakup of the Louisiana delta and/or denied any connection between that issue and hypoxia;<br />
5) conversely, many participants in Louisiana&#8217;s coastal restoration program have dismissed the reduction of eutrophicatio and hypoxia as goals complementary to and compatible with ecosystem restoration;<br />
6) as a result of 4 and 5 integrated and comprehensive solutions to both challenges are rarely discussed, e.g., a brand new report on wetland loss in the eastern US by NOAA and FWS is a perfect example of treating problems in a vacuum, stovepiping technical issues and ignoring connections.</p>
<p>Finally I think there are several basic and critical science questions that need resolution so as to assure the public that our science is credible and that we can reasonaby predict the outcome of the expenditure of billions of public dollars.  These questions include: (1) what would be the outcome of releasing all the flow of the Mississippi-Atchafalaya river system within the shallow estuarine zone; (2) how rapidly is subsidence occurring and where and why; and (3) how much sediment would be needed to restore Louisiana&#8217;s inundated landscape to some sustainable level and are there sufficient sources available.</p>
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		<title>By: mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 18:30:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eutrophication vs. hypoxia ?</description>
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		<title>By: Don Boesch</title>
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		<dc:creator>Don Boesch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 18:05:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hypoxia Meiosis

Jim Cowan seems to be accusing the numerous scientists who have published scores of papers on Gulf hypoxia or have been involved in several high level national assessments of: hyperbole; flawed, exaggerated, and subjective arguments; ignoring their ethical and moral obligations; discrediting science; obscuring the underlying treats to Gulf fisheries; and, if those weren&#039;t bad enough, advertising. These are rather harsh words to be throwing around, even if one is a paragon of objectivity. It&#039;s hard to see how such serious accusations are helpful.

Jim says that he can find no evidence that hypoxia, wetland loss, fishing or anything else, for that matter, has affected Gulf fishery landings, but he &quot;infers&quot; that it is likely that &quot;cumulative impacts will write the last chapter about a fishery ecosystem that reached a tipping prior to a precipitous and perhaps irreversible decline.&quot; If that is true, why would one risk letting extensive and recurring oxygen depletion on the Louisiana shelf get worse, coastal wetlands further deteriorate, or wasteful by-catch discards to continue? 

Jim seems to react viscerally to reference to the Dead Zone, a term initiated by the press rather than scientists, but now used world-wide and with its own Wikipedia listing. He might regard this as hyperbole, but get used to it, the popular reference to the Dead Zone is here to stay.  Scientists have always been clear that there are organisms living in the Dead Zone, although we await with interest the publication of the observations by Cowan&#039;s group that ground fish and shrimp are abundant on the bottom under oxygen concentrations less that 2 mg/L.  This is at odds with all other scientific observations and the actual practices of shrimpers, who know better than to lower the trawl where the Dead Zone is well formed.  Jim also seems also to have fallen into the shifting baseline trap in claiming there is no evidence for hypoxia effects on fishery landings because the have not declined between 1985 and 2007 (Bianchi et al. 2008). Hypoxia was already severe and widespread by 1985--the appropriate comparison is with the period prior to the 1970s when recurrent hypoxia first began to develop. The atlas that Rez Darnell produced for MMS clearly showed that the highest summer biomass of bottom fish during the 1960s was found on parts of the shelf now occupied during the summer by hypoxia rather than bottom fish. There have also been dramatic changes in the dominant fish species caught in bottom trawls since the 1930s when Gordon Gunter first conducted scientific surveys on the inner Louisiana shelf (Chesney and Baltz, 2001). 

AS Doug Daigle points out, the national policy to abate hypoxia by reducing nutrient pollution has already been determined based on extensive scientific assessment and political compromise.  Rather than &quot;advertisers,&quot; the scientists who participated in these assessments have functioned as what Roger Pielke, Jr. calls Honest Brokers of Policy Alternatives.  The science behind this policy was reviewed in depth and confirmed by an independent expert panel convened by the EPA. The EPA panel considered the issues of non-riverine organic matter and physical processes affecting water column stability in reaffirming &quot;the basic conclusion that contemporary changes in the hypoxic area in the northern Gulf of Mexico are primarily related to nutrient fluxes from the Mississippi-Atchafalaya River Basin.&quot;  Meanwhile, Cowan and his co-authors (Bianchi et al. 2008) express &quot;concerns about the monetary costs of nutrient reductions in the Mississippi Basin&quot; without a shred of evidence or analysis of what the benefits and costs are. This is not objectivity and rigor, but the opposite of hyperbole, meiosis, or purposeful understatement.</description>
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<p>Jim Cowan seems to be accusing the numerous scientists who have published scores of papers on Gulf hypoxia or have been involved in several high level national assessments of: hyperbole; flawed, exaggerated, and subjective arguments; ignoring their ethical and moral obligations; discrediting science; obscuring the underlying treats to Gulf fisheries; and, if those weren&#8217;t bad enough, advertising. These are rather harsh words to be throwing around, even if one is a paragon of objectivity. It&#8217;s hard to see how such serious accusations are helpful.</p>
<p>Jim says that he can find no evidence that hypoxia, wetland loss, fishing or anything else, for that matter, has affected Gulf fishery landings, but he &#8220;infers&#8221; that it is likely that &#8220;cumulative impacts will write the last chapter about a fishery ecosystem that reached a tipping prior to a precipitous and perhaps irreversible decline.&#8221; If that is true, why would one risk letting extensive and recurring oxygen depletion on the Louisiana shelf get worse, coastal wetlands further deteriorate, or wasteful by-catch discards to continue? </p>
<p>Jim seems to react viscerally to reference to the Dead Zone, a term initiated by the press rather than scientists, but now used world-wide and with its own Wikipedia listing. He might regard this as hyperbole, but get used to it, the popular reference to the Dead Zone is here to stay.  Scientists have always been clear that there are organisms living in the Dead Zone, although we await with interest the publication of the observations by Cowan&#8217;s group that ground fish and shrimp are abundant on the bottom under oxygen concentrations less that 2 mg/L.  This is at odds with all other scientific observations and the actual practices of shrimpers, who know better than to lower the trawl where the Dead Zone is well formed.  Jim also seems also to have fallen into the shifting baseline trap in claiming there is no evidence for hypoxia effects on fishery landings because the have not declined between 1985 and 2007 (Bianchi et al. 2008). Hypoxia was already severe and widespread by 1985&#8211;the appropriate comparison is with the period prior to the 1970s when recurrent hypoxia first began to develop. The atlas that Rez Darnell produced for MMS clearly showed that the highest summer biomass of bottom fish during the 1960s was found on parts of the shelf now occupied during the summer by hypoxia rather than bottom fish. There have also been dramatic changes in the dominant fish species caught in bottom trawls since the 1930s when Gordon Gunter first conducted scientific surveys on the inner Louisiana shelf (Chesney and Baltz, 2001). </p>
<p>AS Doug Daigle points out, the national policy to abate hypoxia by reducing nutrient pollution has already been determined based on extensive scientific assessment and political compromise.  Rather than &#8220;advertisers,&#8221; the scientists who participated in these assessments have functioned as what Roger Pielke, Jr. calls Honest Brokers of Policy Alternatives.  The science behind this policy was reviewed in depth and confirmed by an independent expert panel convened by the EPA. The EPA panel considered the issues of non-riverine organic matter and physical processes affecting water column stability in reaffirming &#8220;the basic conclusion that contemporary changes in the hypoxic area in the northern Gulf of Mexico are primarily related to nutrient fluxes from the Mississippi-Atchafalaya River Basin.&#8221;  Meanwhile, Cowan and his co-authors (Bianchi et al. 2008) express &#8220;concerns about the monetary costs of nutrient reductions in the Mississippi Basin&#8221; without a shred of evidence or analysis of what the benefits and costs are. This is not objectivity and rigor, but the opposite of hyperbole, meiosis, or purposeful understatement.</p>
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		<title>By: Doug Daigle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doug Daigle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 09:11:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>An additional risk here is that academic rivalries will negatively impact progress on public policy issues. Anyone who has been involved in or followed the hypoxia issue closely knows that the biggest problem there has been lack of action, not &quot;hyperbole.&quot; It may be unfortunate that the &quot;Dead Zone&quot; monicker has been used soextensively in the media. But the realities of the situation (and not hyperbole) have informed the open discusions in the national forum involving federal agencies and the states along the Mississippi River since the Gulf Hypoxia Task Force formed in 1998.

The national policy effort on Gulf Hypoxia has been stymied by lack of resources to implement any comprehensive action for almost a decade. The national Action Plan that was developed in 2000 explicitly stated that, while questions remained about the impacts of hypoxia, the importance of the national resource at stake (the Gulf fishery) justified a national investment to protect it. Specifically, this involved a national investment in actions (programs, projects, etc.) to reduce nutrient loading in the Mississippi River Basin. 

This effort, and the voluntary framework adopted to implement it, were pragmatic policies, but they were not funded by the Bush administration or Congress. Some parties have propogated overestimates of the costs of reducing nutrient loadings, and for obvious reasons. But the failure to make even a modest investment in protecting a resource as important as the Gulf fishery continues to be striking. 

The Gulf Hypoxia Task Force and Action Plan were developed prior to the boom in biofuel production in the Mississippi River Basin, which has resulted in millions of acres being put back into production that were formerly in conservation programs (with concurrent increases in fertlizer application on those lands), just over the past two years. That development was not anticipated in 2001, and unfortunately the Task Force was prevented from effectively addressing it even after it became apparent. 

It&#039;s a striking trend, yet Louisiana academics are arguing about &quot;hypoxia hyperbole&quot; rather than how to respond to a dramatic land use change that has serious implications for the state&#039;s resources. Perhaps we can add that to the cumulative impacts that will be studied in years to come.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An additional risk here is that academic rivalries will negatively impact progress on public policy issues. Anyone who has been involved in or followed the hypoxia issue closely knows that the biggest problem there has been lack of action, not &#8220;hyperbole.&#8221; It may be unfortunate that the &#8220;Dead Zone&#8221; monicker has been used soextensively in the media. But the realities of the situation (and not hyperbole) have informed the open discusions in the national forum involving federal agencies and the states along the Mississippi River since the Gulf Hypoxia Task Force formed in 1998.</p>
<p>The national policy effort on Gulf Hypoxia has been stymied by lack of resources to implement any comprehensive action for almost a decade. The national Action Plan that was developed in 2000 explicitly stated that, while questions remained about the impacts of hypoxia, the importance of the national resource at stake (the Gulf fishery) justified a national investment to protect it. Specifically, this involved a national investment in actions (programs, projects, etc.) to reduce nutrient loading in the Mississippi River Basin. </p>
<p>This effort, and the voluntary framework adopted to implement it, were pragmatic policies, but they were not funded by the Bush administration or Congress. Some parties have propogated overestimates of the costs of reducing nutrient loadings, and for obvious reasons. But the failure to make even a modest investment in protecting a resource as important as the Gulf fishery continues to be striking. </p>
<p>The Gulf Hypoxia Task Force and Action Plan were developed prior to the boom in biofuel production in the Mississippi River Basin, which has resulted in millions of acres being put back into production that were formerly in conservation programs (with concurrent increases in fertlizer application on those lands), just over the past two years. That development was not anticipated in 2001, and unfortunately the Task Force was prevented from effectively addressing it even after it became apparent. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s a striking trend, yet Louisiana academics are arguing about &#8220;hypoxia hyperbole&#8221; rather than how to respond to a dramatic land use change that has serious implications for the state&#8217;s resources. Perhaps we can add that to the cumulative impacts that will be studied in years to come.</p>
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